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Give Peace A Deadline – An Interview With Nathan Otto & Amber Lupton

Posted in Uncategorized by ebenpagan on February 9, 2009

In this interview, you’ll hear Nathan Otto and Amber Lupton explain their “audacious” plan for creating world peace in 5 years… and how you can contribute as well. Press the play button to listen now, and leave your comments below!

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  1. Pete Moring said, on February 10, 2009 at 12:57 am

    Twitters Massive Exponential growth could well help this cause. World peace IS possible, but only when everyone is AWARE of the very real reasons we are all being manipulated by the ‘Few’ who ultimately hold the power over the MASS of the world population.

    This book ‘The Human Survival Blueprint’ (which is FREE for everyone) is the prelude to understanding the control that ‘The Few’ have over us. http://fred67.com/thsb.html

    Once we understand this, we WILL have World Peace ‘without’ violence.

    Good luck with this monumental goal.

    Pete.

  2. jawad said, on February 10, 2009 at 4:39 am

    nice interview ,, its talk about peace which we need to put our world happy and save our planet . , Let us call out Peace in the language of Love ,, by saving this planet its not enaugh to save ourselv we need to save other poeple lifes ,,

  3. Cathy Davies said, on February 10, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Hi Eben,

    It is just so exciting! Can you imagine WORLD PEACE in 5 years? I can!

    I am so on board with this and I know we can make it happen. The world is ready for this!

    I really feel that the kind of movement that can bring about world peace will bring an end to so many other kinds of suffering too. People will have to start taking responsibility for who they are and what they are offering to the world. When they start to do this we will see massive global change.

    The shift has already started. I can feel it everywhere.This is history in the making and we are part of it!

    Thanks so much for bringing this to me. I have placed a link to this page on my website. Hope that’s ok with you.

    Let’s spread the word!

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  5. Ron Haley said, on February 10, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Well now, hmmmm…peace in 5 years? Globally? This all sounds like an expanded Miss Universe contest…with the point of her index finger pressed into her cheek, “Oh yes, and I also wish for world peace.” What news have you been reading, watching, listening to? With the core values and credos of certain groups around the globe, and with the firm rigidity of the same, to think that anyone among those peoples would line up with this way of thinking is naive and ridiculous. The best we can do to come even close to what you are saying is to do our individual best with our friends and neighbors (and neighbors doesn’t mean the people next door..it means anyone outside your circle of friends and family that you may come in contact with).

  6. triswimcoach said, on February 11, 2009 at 11:27 am

    World peace will only happen when we get rid of the very notion that we need government in our lives. Government can only exist through violence. Peace through violence is impossible. A great video explaining voluntaryism and how peace will eventually happen is the Philosophy of Liberty (8 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muHg86Mys7I

  7. Adrienne O'Donnell said, on February 14, 2009 at 10:06 am

    No peace without justice. We need good will and humility for each individual; from governings to governed. It will happen with the help of God.

  8. Leon said, on February 14, 2009 at 10:44 am

    To create world peace you need to understand that banks profit from war.
    The FED being the main one, has privately owned shares, have a look here: http://tinyurl.com/am4yzl

    Resolve that and maybe something changes, This well meaning book missed this point.
    Better make everybody aware of this FED/ Rothschilds problem.

    Best

    Leon

  9. ellish42 said, on February 14, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Incredible interview. Thank you for making your sphere of influence aware of this project. I will pass this on to all I have influence with to expand this great cause.

    Dee H. TX

  10. Edward Zamudio said, on February 14, 2009 at 11:57 am

    Eben,
    This topic is not new if we just read about the history of want has happen in the past which started out with a social agreement with one party making the the rule for this
    solution of peace. The reality is because we have that human factor with us always bringing present all the time. With good intentions wanting to do the right thing but what always happen is the individual go astray and gets greedy with the power they have been trust with..With no countability as we seen recently with our own government and the business world.
    There will be peace in due season as we read the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak!!
    And yes they will be time when one will bring the promise that with grab the hearers attention and will embrace it but only to be deceit to denial them of there own rights as individuals and go back to bandages of someone’s else control. I’m not a negative person but what I know and believe in is something greater then me or anyone else.
    Of course that is a plan of want been give to us if we just believe and receive and share with all we can. That is Gods Plan….who has giving us the peace through his son Jesus Christ..It really that simple but become we think that we our bigger and stronger then God so we neglect to hear from him . He will never force himself but will give you a invitation to receive him freely….I’m sure your guest are nice and giving people who are trying there best to do there part in this world…God Bless them in there efforts..
    God Bless
    Edward Zamudio

  11. Tim O'Keefe said, on February 14, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    I do appreciate this cause and the intent I really do. However, I think it often is just us imposing our values on others in another way.

    Forgive my skepticism on any of these causes but when most of us cannot even get along with our spouses (50+% divorce rate) seriously are we qualified to impose our path to peace on someone else in some other part of the world? In fact a large trend is couples coupling having given up on the hope of a long term relationship alltogether. When there is a good chunk of our citizens in the U.S. smoking crack, and addicted to meth how good are we at this peace thing? Lets look in the mirror before we impose kumbaya on someone else. As the Good book says it starts with us. Which starts within, which flows to our family and larger communities. Let’s work on smiling and engaging one another at home. Then maybe we will indeed be an example. It reminds me of some of my B School Profs who sounded great, but haven’t worked in the private sector for years, if ever. I cannot help but think that other Countries laugh at such things and say, “Healer heal thy self. ” I do not need to read a book or listen to 45 minutes on how to love. I just need to do it. And that choice is where most of us fall off the wagon.

  12. Angela said, on February 14, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    In the words of John Lennon “Give peace a Chance”.
    Eliminate ALL governments in the world, bring down all the barriers to every country, burn all passports, let people travel freely to whereever they wish on this earth. let every single person on this earth take responsibility for their own actions, Do away with the Nanny States. Let people learn by their own experiences. Abolish ALL man made laws.

    This earth belongs to ALL of us and if people are left alone they will live their lives in peacefulness. It is only the greedy, power hungry , controlling bully boys that are ruining it for the rest of us., left to the people, these morons would be squashed before they could do any damage.

    Human beings are capable of organising themselves, and all people know who are likely to grow up to be trouble, and they will nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. There is an old saying , it takes a whole village to bring up a child, and by working together in a couple of decades we could change the world.

    BUT as long as there are stupid brain dead people who actually believe that we need Governing by a body of Power hungry, greedy, self serving B——s, and people who have no idea how to take responsibility for their own actions and therefore actually welcome laws, none of which GIVES a freedom, but all laws TAKE another freedom away, then world peace is a long way away.

    People MUST take back their own sovereign, god given power that we are all born with.

  13. Rephael Inbar said, on February 14, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Great initiative. My hat’s off to Nathan and Amber. What comes to mind as highly relevant for a global initiative of this type is the work of Mr. Sharp of the Albert Einstein Institute titled “From Dictatorship To Democracy”. His work has been influential in overthrowing several dictator-like governments, including Serbia, Ukraine, Georgia and Kyrgyzstan. What makes Mr. Sharp’s work unique is that his entire approach is based PEACEFUL, non-violent resistance that’s proven to be highly successful. Seems to me that many of the tactics described in his writings would be useful for this project. You can get a free copy of Mr. Sharp’s book at: http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD.pdf.

    Peace to All !

  14. Jim said, on February 14, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Based solely on the interview and the responses above, it appears there are the variety of views to be expected from an intelligent cross-section of people. They run the gamut from utopia to pipedream. I would expect this based on the diverse information pathways we all follow. But to the responder above who was a strong advocate for ‘peace talk’, sure, what can it hurt? In any case, it also appears that there is a small ball rolling, and it will become another information path/stream. Where it leads? Yes, exactly. So, to be specific about things I heard in the interview: NGOs, Paul Wolffowitz, their peace generally comes down the barrel of a gun. They show up with money and social programs in a deal that ultimately confiscates land and natural resources. Europe and America became great this way and you can too. So, there’s a big conundrum. However, it’s not to say that Paul and people working for NGOs couldn’t get on board with a whole different paradigm. It’s not that the cynicism gap couldn’t be bridged by way of peace talk, because as airy-fairy, Age of Aquarius as the whole World Peace idea sounds, what was dawning in the 1960s is now arrived. The moon was in the 7th house and Jupiter aligned with Mars last month, and that’s astronomical fact, astrologically speaking. We are now living in the Age of Aquarius. That being the case, lets just say, that stranger things could happen than war becoming obsolete. If thinking around a vision of peace is paid attention to by enough individuals with consistency, even if chaotically organized, chaos theory or even fractal geometry would eventually order a shift in our reality. Out of chaos,order (just be careful what you wish for). Recall the Transcendental Meditation experiments of the 1970s in which a group of meditators, perhaps 100 people placed themselves in Washington, DC and some other world hot spots, (please don’t quote me on the facts) but the results were lowered violent crime rates based on news/police reports for the brief period the mediators focused their highly organized intent and energy. There are many forerunners for this idea and this cause, and peace has been their message, and each with passion and inspiration have set about wherever they were to clean up some mess that was interfering with conditions for peace somewhere, Ghandi being perhaps the most iconic figure. So, is it any wonder that such an idea as World Peace continually recurrs? It’s no accident, whether one is naive or world weary, peace is coming, if not in this life, hopefully in the next. In the mean time, there are many, many messes to clean up if peace is going to be possible anywhere. You’ll notice that peaceful places are nice tidy, naturally ordered spaces, whether big or small that are devoid of human refuse–a forest, a garden, a chapel. Let’s tidy it up and tuck it in people. Use it or lose it, recycle, reorder, redo and realize that the space and the people around us are profoundly affected by ‘us’–what we think, how we feel and what we spend our time doing. So, if we take some time daily to visualize peace where we are, we can project it, network it and interconnect it. It happens all the time. I think it’s called marketing. Thanks Eban.

  15. Bobbi Henderson said, on February 14, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    I am a possibility thinker and I am excited about your project for peace.

    The trend is toward peace and taking responsibility for our own thoughts and actions. Peace begins within each individual. We are most powerful as a whole and continue to change our reality as we move toward a future of peace.

    P5Y sounds like a great tool for guiding us all to this new future of world peace. I am involved with a couple of groups working toward peace and we often do feel stuck because the project is so huge…. I like what was said on the interview…”that peace is possible, it has a dead line and anyone can help.”

    I plan to buy the book. Thank you for writing this book ….It is encouraging to see so many people today working toward peace.

    Love & many blessings to you.

  16. Mike Lewitz said, on February 14, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    The most progressive way to achieve world peace is to eliminate scarcity from people’s beliefs. We live in a world of such unlimited abundance, it’s sad to see so many people suffering because they believe they must take from others because they think there is “not enough” to go around. It is our responsibility to continue to wake people up to see the unlimited resources that exist in our world and the personal, (dare I say..) selfish benefits of doing for others (see: Eben Pagan). The very idea of scarcity is found NOWHERE in nature, only in the human mind. Admittedly, we marketers are guilty for the perpetuation of scarcity, for we often use scarcity to create the urgency to buy. Is it fair to claim “we’re just giving our prospect what they want and if scarcity tactics didn’t work we wouldn’t use them?” As much as I’m on a personal mission to help eliminate scarcity, I still haven’t decided the answer to this question. Imagine if several organic food companies had a marketing departments as talented as Coca-Cola or Anheuser-Busch …the world would certainly be a different place.

    I’m in!

  17. Rebecca Rachmany said, on February 15, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Thank you for sharing this!

  18. Rod Lawless said, on February 15, 2009 at 5:30 am

    I think it would be all to easy to negate the ideals here. Maybe a first read of the book will let us know how possible this is.

    There is all this talk of 1,000 years of peace which could start in 2012 so maybe it’s not that far away. There is enough knowledge in the world now to accomplish it so let’s make it happen. We’ve been here for long enough to find a better way, surely.

  19. Gord said, on February 15, 2009 at 8:02 am

    This is a wonderful vision worthy of consideration, some thing all of us can move towards. You said we need the military to protect the innocent, what will they do to protect them? Some times violence against violent aggressors may be seen as the only solution, or they will kill all they can. if every one in a school gets on board for no bullying (peace) except
    the gang or bullies , There won’t be peace. If some how you can reachn the bullies whoever they are on both sides, then you make progress. As Jesus says ” Blessed are the peacemakers, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven” If you can really fimd a way, more power to you. Peace &love to all Gord

  20. Adam said, on February 15, 2009 at 11:23 am

    Anyone heard of John F. Demartini? He has a very simple common sensical take on ‘world peace’. It’s mind-boggling and very insightful. Personally I think this is just a bandwagon trick and just being used as self-promotion. Brilliant PR stunt. I’d love to see no wars by 2014, that’d be fantastic. However it’s just simply too short of a time frame. Some people can’t even change a habit and stick to it in 30 days, how can you expect 5 years? A massive change in consciousness (and at this rate, would seem of the kind that is of external means, a pill or global radio waves or something ;-p some quick fix).

    The only way right now for having an abundance of peace is to have an equal and opposite measure of abundance of war. Which begs the question: why do we even want peace anyways?

    Look around you, there is plenty! 99% of Americans in the U.S are or feel ‘safe’. The reasons for conflict in the so-called Third-World countries is not due to lack of peace, but systemic corruption; cultures/religions; poverty; and chaos in regards to basic daily needs of systems as simple as education to the complex of law and order.

    Just look at communist Soviet Union in the past and property rights & democracy (lack of I mean) in China today. We don’t need peace, just a li’l fixing and tweaking.

  21. George Bigger said, on February 15, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    (As I listen excitedly to the interview) Not unexpectedly, I have been envisioning the same mutual benefits (sustainable peace) being shared across all current boundaries in OUR shared new U-Netted Nations – via a collaborative self-correcting process (ASK4) that empowers WE the people to co-manage our destiny – globally.

    Perhaps this vision can converge and support your pragmatic approach.

    I look forward to connecting with other thought leaders – urgently!
    Thanks
    GeoB

    This recent post may be a quick on-ramp to my own vision:
    http://unettednations.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/forget-capitalism-embrace-social-capital/

  22. Mike Myers said, on February 16, 2009 at 2:07 am

    Is “peace” actually just that? …the absence of “organized military violence”? Hmm… Isn’t the human mind very dependent on cultural, religious, philosophical, …and yes, political BELIEFS as defined by enabling the human individual to (in their mind) belong to GROUPS (say, …societies, religious groups, etc.)? Does it not make things much easier, …knowhing where you “belong” …and who is “us” and who is “them”? If anyone were to dissolve these belief-systems, what would we be left with? The “idea” that maybe there is no “us” or “them”, …and (much worse) no “individuality” left in defining the difference between YOU and ME? Would you say that people (in general) are “ready” for such a notion? If so, …then WHY has there been war over the decades, even in BUDHIST countries? Don’t get me wrong, I actually DO believe that world peace (today) would be possible, but at the cost of a few conditions being met, like: The existence of Earth or humankind (as a whole) must be threatened by some OUTSIDE “ENEMY” (aliens!??) for people to realize that they are ALL just part of the SAME, LARGE GROUP, which is mankind. As marketers you are all probably very aware of the scientifically well researched fact, that group dynamics change massively with the introduction of a common (outside) “enemy”, …but WHAT IF humans (in general) could not live (satisfactory) WITHOUT such “enemies” that help them in defining themselves over others?? Wouldn’t that result in “new and improved” enemies being CREATED afresh, when- and wherever taken away?

    WHAT IF …the whole notion of “evil things happen in the world because of OTHER (few!?) individuals” is merely just a REFLECTION of what I just suggested? Looking to fix things by searching for evil, faults and what’s generally “wrong” on the OUTSIDE and trying to “fix” THAT? No no, we are smarter than that, already, aren’t we. We KNOW that have to start looking on the INSIDE …which, of course, makes us much smarter than “the others”, …let’s build a group, club, or organization to help us MANIFEST this belief!!! Ooops …there it is …AGAIN. Has this idea been in our minds for millions of years, maybe!? Hmm, …okay, …5 years, …sounds like an adequate timeframe to go and “fix things on the outside”, though. ;-) GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!! I MEAN IT!

  23. Mike Myers said, on February 16, 2009 at 2:31 am

    I know I might come across as being focused on the “negative” here, but really just looking for CONSTRUCTIVE INPUT. What would you answer to someone stating that “The human mind defines it’s existence purely by the degree of SUFFERING it endures.” If that were actually true (which, of course, it is probably not, as it’s a generalization …and all generalisations are lies, …including this one. right!?) would that mean that the ABSENCE of all suffering would leave us with nothing to (on an emotional level) tell us that we are actually alive? Now THAT WOULD be a “bummer”, wouldn’t it!? ;-) I wonder what the Wachowski bros. were hinting at in the Matrix, with Mr. Smith’s monologue about the first matrix created having been “perfect”, but also REJECTED by “the humans”. :-. Kind of resonates with me. What resonates with you?? Help me out here, please!

  24. Mike Myers said, on February 16, 2009 at 2:40 am

    Oh boy, …I just now realized that I have “irrational passion”, as well. ;-) And even got emotionally caught up in it for a minute. :-. Did I actually just write 2 posts about wether WORLD PEACE is possible to accomplish? *lol* RESPECT! GREAT JOB, EBEN !!! :-)))

  25. Adrià Bonell said, on February 16, 2009 at 9:00 am

    I’m curious about this, and must admit I wouldn’t take it too seriously if it wasn’t Eben who is bringing it out. I will find out more and, if workable, I think it’s essential to use as many languages as possible to spread the project.

  26. John said, on February 16, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    1) Peace has been defined as being “safe from politically organized violence” before and the peace and trade connection is well known. The idea that peace has not been envisioned or actionable before is not correct.If the authors think that these are new insights that promise a new force for peace they are simply naive, and not very well read.

    2) Paul Wolfowitz was not the “first person to bring up the advantages of removing all nuclear weapons from the world”. In fact he is one of the prime architects of the Iraq war–an unnecessary war based on false premises that millions of better-informed people rejected. This is the opposite of safety from politically organized violence. If he’s one of your “experts on peace”, that’s laughable.

    3) The concept that cooperation and warfare are incompatible is certainly not new, it’s as old as civilization.

    4) The US has engaged in many “robust military peace-keeping actions”. Individual action and inclusivity is what is required to have a military force that is available for these kinds of things. Who will make the decision of when to use that force for good–even safety from political violence?

    5) For “standards for peace safety”–start with the US Constitution’s Bill of Rights. It directly addresses safety from politically organized violence and creates a governmental system which provides for that. How many countries have that, and enforce it? What have the authors done to support the US Constitution?

    6)The size of the military isn’t relevant to “peace in five years?. I guarantee you if we had 50% more troops available the Bush administration the political attemptwould never have considered leaving Iraq. Well gee whiz, a photo montage of people who want peace…..that will help what?

    7)Changing the concepts of war and peace? Will sweet little Amber do that? I certainly don’t see it.

    8) “Over there?” what a total America-centric point of view. There are people who want to kill you Amber–yes, you yourself, just because you said that. Tell it to the Taliban.

  27. Suzy Bell said, on February 16, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    “Peace is Possible”. That is a beautiful simple statement that
    we all need to fully absorb. Pray for peace daily, weave it into
    your life and share it with others. What Amber & Nathan are saying
    is so true. This book is very needed !
    Thank you Eben
    for bringing them to us.
    Cheers,
    Suzy Bell

  28. Nick Dolenz said, on February 16, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Hey Eben,
    First, I want to congratulate you for becoming more aware of politics and government. Over the past few years, first through DYD and then through Altitude, I have always been consistently impressed with your thinking and your way of doing business. But there was always that one element that I thought was missing from your teachings: just how massive an impact government has on each and every one of us. I know how much you study your topic and how fully you immerse yourself in what you teach, so I hope you will dig deeper into THIS topic. If you study the history of governments you wil begin to see that it is a government that prevents peace, whether it be Federal, or the “World View” government that your two friends are trying to advance. Also, “governments” have always been more about “gain” than about “governing.”

    Their pointing out the difference between violence and war is very acurate, but that is not where it ends. Only governments can have wars, fighting between two individuals is not. Even if there is only “One World Government,” there still will not be peace because that government will contantly be at war with the people it governs.

    As triswimcoach said above, peace through force will never work.

    Peace through freedom, that’s the answer their looking for!

  29. Andrew Thompson said, on February 17, 2009 at 1:23 am

    Of course it is possible. This just makes sense.

    1) Practically everyone wants it (even George Bush!), they just don’t know how.
    2) The peaceful solution is always better for almost everyone involved.

    Therefore, it’s just a matter of spreading the idea, just as once people realized they could vote for their president and they didn’t have to be serfs anymore, democracy spread around the world.

    I’ve already sent it to all my friends and started publicizing it around the internet.

    It is good. Now let’s see if they follow up.

  30. Lydia said, on February 27, 2009 at 4:38 am

    Hi Eben ,
    I couldn\t write about this until now , I find this email from you .
    The interview is interesting and is good that somebody began to think at last , to peace , for a new wave energy for this Planet and people .

    This idea is fantastic ,you and your friends are fantastic .

    Many people began to work for this proccess .Some have the mission to create more money ,and this is an energy as well as material stuff ,others work more with another kind of energy . This is a deep proccess .
    I hope in 5 years to shift many ,because after 2012 ,shall be a big shift on all levels .

    I work with a few people via Internet but this connection with your site is perfect because we can see , hear and to be connected with special information .

    Thank you for last email I have received today .

    Can you give a contact link where to put questions or only to say thank you to you for all special guidance ?

    I wish you a special weekend .

    I send you only light and peace ,

    Lydia

    PS. Vangelis has wonderful vibration and music .

    You are a special soul and Master , Eben .

  31. Jørgen Michael said, on February 27, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Smart book promotion Eben, I got some mixed feelings about the idea Nathan & Amber are talking about.

    On the one hand it think what the Authors are talking about when it comes to their peace creating agenda is so naive – it severly insults the average intelect of a sane thinking human.
    Let me focus on one two things:

    1. A&N talk about “the internet” and “software” that will make a difference in connecting people. Didn’t we hear that story just recently? Yes, it was the One-Laptop-Per-Child-Initiative – of which Experts bring up profund evidence that this is not really educating the third world, it is rather an initiative creating market shares in a segment in a very clever way. Read this: http://www.zoomer.de/news/topthema/-/one-laptop-per-child/artikel/das-geht-an-den-realitaeten-vorbei-

    2. In your talk A&N do not convince that they have social legitimacy about this topic. What is their background – purely business? The mere collection of facts to which they present a creative problem solution is very interesting to read, but it’s a bit like fashion school – making collection that look very artistic, yet noone could wear. Social Entrepreneurhip looks slightly different to me: you cannot impose it – this is what we always learn from attempts to build innovation systems for example. You cannot bring in the structures purposely that made up the Valley and reproducing its success on other places. Please, Dear Authors, study Peter Drucker on Social Innovations and all World Phillosophers on the topics peace, war and the nature of the human being. And study Macchiavelli. As you talked in Eben’s 50 Minute book recommendation it was just a cheeky attempt to overlook all world class minds that dealt with that issue.

    Eben, I know you did read Malcolm Gladwell. His lesson from Blink! The Power of the Moment should be applied in this context: go and ask 50 experts to that topic on what they think of the practicability of those creative ideas from worldwide peacetreaty on to your project peaceplanner and the 3 big circles. I would not be wondering when some might say that this utopia sounds just like a naive concept of peace communism….

    ….although it has its benefits, that is: a great positive vision – I really enjoyed your vision, Amber and Nathan – you both are very enthusiastic about it. I think many people wish to share your vision, because peace is something that keeps us alive – our most wanted desire. People will buy it, and I think that people like me think about your ideas – even if I don’t agree with most of your take – may start a discussion and exchange of ideas and believe that brings the idea on many agendas. It is just to hope that true change will happen more than just some action-taking.

    One last note. As you teached, Eben, being territorial – for example, one of the male streaks in us human – is naturally in us. This streak definetly is counterproductive for avoiding violent conflicts. Anyone still wearing its pink glasses?

  32. Jørgen Michael said, on February 27, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Well, I’m stunned that noone opposes those simplistic ideas of Amber & Nathan.
    Read this: http://jayemdiscoveries.blogspot.com/2009/02/utopia-20-creating-world-without-wars.html

  33. Matthew said, on March 6, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Hey Eben,

    First of all, congratulations on becoming more involved in politics and government. From DYD to Altitude, I’ve always been impressed with the depth of knowledge of the topics you teach and your consistent integrity and commitment to your customers. What you teach has always been clear and detailed, however, I always thought you were leaving out one piece of the puzzle; the massive effect politics and government has on all our lives.

    I agree with triswimcoach above and disagree with your friend’s view about achieving peace. Peace is not a process in and of itself. Peace can only come through individual freedom within a government that GOVERNS rather than RULES.

    As your friends pointed out, there is a difference between violence and war and only governments can have wars, no matter what kind of government it is. Even if it is the “one world” or “world view” government that your friends are advancing, because it would always be at war with the subjects it “governs.” Yes, we do live in a “global age,” but that makes it more important to insure individual freedom and liberty.

    I hope you begin to really study this topic with the same thoroughness of your other material. The history of governments, their rise and fall, war and how the loss (or surrender) of individual freedom and liberty lead to the failure of every single government, no matter what it called itself. If you do pursue this you will understand why a government that focuses on “ruling” instead of “governing” and strips individuals of their freedom (or persuades them to voluntarily surrender it) is the true barrier to achieving peace.

    If there is anyone that can really dig down to discover and understand the origins and history of governments, war and peace, and then be able to educate others and REALLY begin to make a difference, it’s you Eben.

  34. Scott Storm said, on May 28, 2009 at 11:06 am

    One of the best ways of achieving lasting peace. Is through education. Particularly education that helps us understand each other. World wide education seems to focus more on teaching children how to behave themselves, rather than on understanding, communicating and loving each other.

  35. Michael Strathmore said, on June 21, 2009 at 11:40 am

    I posted this question to Amber on the radio, yesterday, 6/20–circa 3:45 PST

    “Do you think that it is a universal human need to have world peace?— And if your
    answer is “yes,” then why do you think more people have not put forth a more
    concentrated / focused effort on making it happen?”

    I thought it was a valid question-

    I think human being do go after what they “truly” want-

    You want an ice cream, I’m sure you’ll find an ice cream store-
    If you want to quit smoking- you will either quit with
    willpower or even smoking cessation aids.
    If you DO NOT quit smoking ( or lose weight, or anything
    else people claim they WANT,)
    Freud would the bottom line answer- That you probably
    don’t want it- You don’t really want to quit smoking-
    Make sense? I don’t think I got off track here, bringing it back-

    If you have a goal = World Peace- P5Y
    You must determine if this goal
    is even a human need or want —
    Then, accertain what motivating factors
    will cause this human behaviorial shift-

    Me: Freud, do people want world peace?
    Freud: Do they have it yet?
    Me: No, of course not.
    Freud: Then they truly do not want it.

    That scares me/
    Let’s say that humans DO want world peace,
    but don’t have tools, direction, – overall intention
    to accomplish quitting war-
    like quitting smoking-
    Very good comparison-
    The smoker kills himself and needs the tools
    to lead to promoting his own survival-
    If he even wants to quit-
    Humans need the tools
    to lead to this desired outcome-
    Goal= P5Y
    It appears people either don’t want to
    achieve it, or need the tools-
    My original question was attempting
    to identify what mitivating factors will
    lead to this (major) change in human behavior-
    Any desired outcome that needs human behavior to
    change, when they cannot accomplish the change themselves-
    As Tony Robbins would perhaps say, you to get leverage-
    Again, this is the direction my radio question attempted to persue.
    So- how do you get leverage on the entire human race to change a
    pattern of behavior that has been learned behavior for thousands of years-
    Forget habbits, these current tendencies / behaviors ( i.e. wars) have almost been
    burned into human DNA.
    3 weeks they say to change a habbit-
    Three weeks isn’t ling enough to change these behaviors-
    The challenge (P5Y) is attempting to change thousands
    of years of bad human habbits-
    The lever underneath people form this “leverage” will need to be
    of momumental size, ( think the planet Jupitor here)–
    Sisyphus had a noble intention- but not enough leverage
    to sustain his goal, or varied methods to keep
    this from consistently falling back down-
    My question had an intention-
    Do humans have a “real” need for peace?
    What motivating factors will cause this size
    leverage to accomplish P5Y, or P(?)Y ?

    Freud just whispered to me that based on
    past behavior, it would appear that
    humans have a greater need for
    war and conlict (uncertainty-possible Global destruction)
    rather than Peace ( certainty)-
    I whispered back for him not to be a pessimist–
    His response?
    “I’m not a pessimist, I’m a scientist.”
    ————————————————
    *** note: Freud assumes no association
    with my comments on this blog.

  36. Michael Strathmore said, on June 21, 2009 at 11:57 am

    BTW-
    I’m not going to excuse my
    occasional spelling/ syntax errors here-
    I am just going to publically blame my
    iphone- You can’t scroll back up to doulble check
    your work-
    But you’re all smart-
    you got my pont-

    Peace out- no pun’ intended-

  37. DaveS said, on July 28, 2009 at 2:14 pm

    First of all, there’s nothing more noble than selfless service, so I am grateful to anyone doing their best to help others.

    I just scrolled through the comments and a couple of things jumped out:
    “World peace IS possible, but only when everyone is AWARE of the very real reasons we are all being manipulated by the ‘Few’ who ultimately hold the power over the MASS of the world population.”

    Whoa, I wanna point that this is a total victim mentality. There is not a global conspiracy against us ‘normal’ people. Nobody in the world is holding back anything from you, and no one is the cause of one’s own lack, unhappiness etc. This type of mindset is extremely paranoid and dangerous.

    Next,

    A lot of people have the mindset, ‘having world peace means X':
    -means I’ll be happy
    -means life will be better
    -means I’ll have better relationship, more money etc.

    I promise you, if world peace is accomplished, and you’re not happy now, or you’re not successful now – its not gonna make any difference. You won’t suddenly become happy because of an external event.

    Dont get stuck in the mindset of, when a future event happens, THEN things will be good.

    War is not causing your suffering.
    Violence is not causing your suffering.
    Nothing in the world is causing your suffering.

    God Bless,

    Dave


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